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chris christie met with president obama to talk about aid following superstorm sandy. and the first family lights up their tree. now let's get you back to "hardball." >>> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%, but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> welcome back to "hardball." today president obama took his fiscal pitch outside the beltway visiting a middle class family in the virginia suburbs. the president's message is resonating with people across america. a new quinnipiac poll proves it. 53% trust president obama and the democrats more to handle the fiscal cliff negotiations. only 36% trust the "r"s in congress. joining me is nbc chief white house correspondent and political director and host of "the daily rundown," anything else you control around here? >> that's enough. >> and "the washington post's" chris cillizza. i think you've been reupped. you're all over the place. you'
chris christie met with president obama to talk about aid following superstorm sandy. and the first family lights up their tree. now let's get you back to "hardball." >>> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%, but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> welcome back to...
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governor chris christie is making a personal plea for federal disaster aid in the wake of hurricane sandy. the republican governor paid an unannounced visit to the white house to ask the president for $83 billion in aid for new jersey, new york and connecticut. he also met with members of congress. it was their first meeting since touring new jersey disaster areas in late october. >>> tea party leader and some say gop king-maker, senator jim demint of south carolina, is stepping down from congress, this happening on january 1st. demint will become head of the heritage foundation. that's a conservative think tank with an $80 million-a-year budget. demint is just two years into a second six-year term, and south carolina governor nikki haley will appoint his successor. >>> so, 2012 was officially the most expensive election in american political history. the final reports show that spending on the campaign broke the $2 billion landmark and milestone in its final weeks, helping set the record. las vegas casino mogul sheldon adelson and his wife poured more than $95 million into super politica
governor chris christie is making a personal plea for federal disaster aid in the wake of hurricane sandy. the republican governor paid an unannounced visit to the white house to ask the president for $83 billion in aid for new jersey, new york and connecticut. he also met with members of congress. it was their first meeting since touring new jersey disaster areas in late october. >>> tea party leader and some say gop king-maker, senator jim demint of south carolina, is stepping down...
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superstorm sandy may be part of the reason job creation slowed. but worry over the fiscal cliff may have also had an immaterial pact. some economists believe that 200,000 fewer jobs thhave been created this year, due to uncertainty about the fiscal cliff. >> it's very important we get it done now. >> reporter: republicans and democrats are talking again. but still, no breakthrough. the parties are locked in a stalemate. president obama is demanding that higher tax rates for the wealthy and a permanent extension of the debt ceiling, the government's ability to borrow money, be part of the deal. >> he's assuming unprecedented power to spend taxpayer dollars out any limit at all. >> reporter: republicans who say they're open to raising tax revenue say they will only do so in exchange for deep spending cuts. if washington can't strike a deal, one casualty will be compensation for the long-term unemployed. that means people like linda vega, are worried. >> christmas and things of that nature are probably off the table. >> reporter: aides to president o
superstorm sandy may be part of the reason job creation slowed. but worry over the fiscal cliff may have also had an immaterial pact. some economists believe that 200,000 fewer jobs thhave been created this year, due to uncertainty about the fiscal cliff. >> it's very important we get it done now. >> reporter: republicans and democrats are talking again. but still, no breakthrough. the parties are locked in a stalemate. president obama is demanding that higher tax rates for the...
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what are they celebrating, remember that they have not fallen to level that prevailed before hurricane sandy. what is more, there are few if any indications they will get that that neck of the woods any time soon. big layoffs at citigroup, what is that 11,000? lingering fallout from thousands of jobs lost at hostess. all i'm saying is, when you look at this news, and it still interpreted as good, only make me thing, that mainstream media is still pushing for the president or democrats. well, the guy got reelected. you don't have to pretend any more, it upsets me, tye young, what do you make of this. >> neil thank you, we have wall street laying people off, main street laying people off, market flat lining up and down one week to the next. just like it was before it crashed in 2008, unemployment number 7 .9% that is very high, real unemployment maybe is almost 17%, and the washington post tells us that ignore it because of hurricane sandy, that is ridiculous. my clients are business owners, they tell me that the cost of living and cost of doing business is going up, the availability of busine
what are they celebrating, remember that they have not fallen to level that prevailed before hurricane sandy. what is more, there are few if any indications they will get that that neck of the woods any time soon. big layoffs at citigroup, what is that 11,000? lingering fallout from thousands of jobs lost at hostess. all i'm saying is, when you look at this news, and it still interpreted as good, only make me thing, that mainstream media is still pushing for the president or democrats. well,...
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so sandy did leave an impact in the data. but i think the report as a whole shows that the economy has been resilient, as i say every month when i'm on your show we're making progress. we're digging our way out of a deep hole. we're not satisfied yet. there's a long way to go. but there are signs that the economy is continuing to heal. >> is it a realistic possibility a year ago today the unemployment rate was 8.7%. today it's 7.7%. is it a realistic possibility, i know you don't like to project numbers, but that we could expect another point drop a year from now? is. >> well, we'll come out with our official projections when the budget comes out but i would say if congress does address the problems that it needs to address concerning the fiscal cliff if we had reasonable resolution type of programs that the president has been proposing to support the economy in the short run, get us on a sustainable fiscal path in the long run, protect the middle class, we're going to continue to see progress in this economy. in fact, i woul
so sandy did leave an impact in the data. but i think the report as a whole shows that the economy has been resilient, as i say every month when i'm on your show we're making progress. we're digging our way out of a deep hole. we're not satisfied yet. there's a long way to go. but there are signs that the economy is continuing to heal. >> is it a realistic possibility a year ago today the unemployment rate was 8.7%. today it's 7.7%. is it a realistic possibility, i know you don't like to...
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what's special about this jobs report is the survey was being taken at the same time hurricane sandy hit. transportation was blocked. power was out for a big swath of the country. factories had to stop producing. the economy particularly in the northeast was a mess. there was no way to survey it well. that, the economists say is why their expectations are so low for tomorrow. the good news is the hurricane's affects are reversing and quickly. the number of people filing new claims for unemployment benefits rocketed in the week of the hurricane. last week fell just as rapidly. we will eventually know what happened to the labor market in november. but as my "washington post" colleague neil irwin writes, probably not until december 21st or so when the state by state jobs numbers come out, that we can filter out the states hit by the hurricane and see what's going on in states where the economy was relatively normal. done. whatever the number is -- time to spare. whatever the number is tomorrow, don't freak out, don't worry about it. at least not yet. to come home for the holidays. that'
what's special about this jobs report is the survey was being taken at the same time hurricane sandy hit. transportation was blocked. power was out for a big swath of the country. factories had to stop producing. the economy particularly in the northeast was a mess. there was no way to survey it well. that, the economists say is why their expectations are so low for tomorrow. the good news is the hurricane's affects are reversing and quickly. the number of people filing new claims for...
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talking about sandy, there seems to be a lack of sandy effect as some had thought initially. we see a pullback, a little less than half of a percent. we have positive indications there that says the job market is doing better, too. what's your thought here? what drove this unexpected gain in jobs, basically double what some consensus numbers were? >> i think part of it is the data in which it was collected. we had an early thanksgiving so seasonal hiring for the holidays offset the superstorm sandy. in addition, i think -- and where i would differ from jared just a little bit and we rarely do -- the underlying economy is consideri considerably stronger. if you take into account the number of baby boomers that are retiring, that has not been talked about and does effect the labor force participation rate. the broadest measure of unemployment, the unemployed and those who left the workforce fell to 14.7%. so i think things are getting better. what i'm most afraid of is the type of talk we heard from speaker boehner and maxine waters. they are taking us to the cliff on both side
talking about sandy, there seems to be a lack of sandy effect as some had thought initially. we see a pullback, a little less than half of a percent. we have positive indications there that says the job market is doing better, too. what's your thought here? what drove this unexpected gain in jobs, basically double what some consensus numbers were? >> i think part of it is the data in which it was collected. we had an early thanksgiving so seasonal hiring for the holidays offset the...
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chris and sandy's twin boys were just entering high school. when this case is heard, they will be getting ready to graduate from high school. their moms deserve the same freedom to marry just as everyone else has in this country. and in this country we don't deny a certain portion of our citizens a fundamental right. we just don't. it's not american. >> isn't it true that when we had this in the court in the ninth in the appellate level, nobody came forward because nobody could come up with what you call a justification, some compelling reason. just chat on that point. you raised it. there's no compelling reason against giving the rights to people, the right to marriage. >> that's exactly right, chris. it's important to note in both of these cases, the united states government has refused to defend doma, the federal law that's now before this court, and when we filed the case right here in california as one has to do, we sued the governor at the time which was arnold schwarzenegger and our attorney general at the time which was jerry brown, th
chris and sandy's twin boys were just entering high school. when this case is heard, they will be getting ready to graduate from high school. their moms deserve the same freedom to marry just as everyone else has in this country. and in this country we don't deny a certain portion of our citizens a fundamental right. we just don't. it's not american. >> isn't it true that when we had this in the court in the ninth in the appellate level, nobody came forward because nobody could come up...
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believer in climate change to understand the ding dangers from extreme weather are already here after sandy, after katrina, after record droughts in the midwest, why aren't we seeing more meaningful action from congress on climate change? well, i got four words for you: charles & david koch conservative brothers with combined net worth of $80,000,000,000, $80,000,000,000 have spent a fortunate to kill climate legislation. they have also funded climate change denial science, and they've waged an all-out attack on clean air laws of the. the top 25 senators who have received the most campaign cash from from, seven sitting here today on the environmental public works committees and big surprise. they are all republicans and they have all voted in favor of oil interests. john barasso, jim inhoff and lamar alexander have voted for fossil fuels 94% of the time. the koch brothers have given $60 million to groups that fund climate denial research including senator jim demint's new home the heritage foundation. right now, halfway across the world in doha qatar, world leaders are meeting for climate t
believer in climate change to understand the ding dangers from extreme weather are already here after sandy, after katrina, after record droughts in the midwest, why aren't we seeing more meaningful action from congress on climate change? well, i got four words for you: charles & david koch conservative brothers with combined net worth of $80,000,000,000, $80,000,000,000 have spent a fortunate to kill climate legislation. they have also funded climate change denial science, and they've...
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it turns out that sandy did have an impact, but not on the headline numbers. >> if you look deeper in the report, you do see that over a million workers who normally work full time were reduced to part-time hours during the reference week because of bad weather, and over 300,000 additional workers weren't able to work at all because of bad weather. >> reporter: and because of the way the labor department calculates or figures out and decides -- defines who is working part time, full time or working at all and when, sandy's impact did not show up in the overall numbers. but one thing did. as you mentioned, 350,000 people left the work force, about the same number stayed in, and that is what put downward pressure on the unemployment rate taking it down to 7.7. heather? heather: peter barnes reporting live from the white house, thank you. so what can the federal government do to kick start the economy and get more americans back to work in the new year? that's what we need. well, economists and former speech writer to former prime ministers nixon and ford -- presidents nixon and ford, be
it turns out that sandy did have an impact, but not on the headline numbers. >> if you look deeper in the report, you do see that over a million workers who normally work full time were reduced to part-time hours during the reference week because of bad weather, and over 300,000 additional workers weren't able to work at all because of bad weather. >> reporter: and because of the way the labor department calculates or figures out and decides -- defines who is working part time, full...
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>> this is the comics benefit for sandy relief. it will be with colin quinn, daryle hammond, susie essman rosy perez, and me. you can come to the actual big show monday night at www.92y/org comics. >> stephanie: do it. >> i think people actually spell susie essman to insult them. >> stephanie: yes. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: representative washington fox. >> oh yeah. >> stephanie: the republican in north carolina she [ inaudible ] a lonely staff member for daring to step foot in the members only elevator. the regular elevator was being occupied by furniture movers and as soon as fox stepped into the elevator she allegedly demanded to know for who the staffer worked before demanding that she get out. and then she directed to the sign posted in the elevator and said i just hope we are hiring people that know how to read. >> wow! [ applause ] >> stephanie: karl rove will be fax on fox news. >> did a producer get permission. >> stephanie: yeah doing fox business, barney and company. >> nobody watches that. >> st
>> this is the comics benefit for sandy relief. it will be with colin quinn, daryle hammond, susie essman rosy perez, and me. you can come to the actual big show monday night at www.92y/org comics. >> stephanie: do it. >> i think people actually spell susie essman to insult them. >> stephanie: yes. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: representative washington fox. >> oh yeah. >> stephanie: the republican in north carolina she [...
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ruth is in sandy hook connecticut. >> good morning, bill. i am calling to say, please keep feeling guilty. >> why? >> because this adorable company does things to make sure that they don't pay taxes in the u.s. there is a thing called -- this was in "the new york times." it's double-dutch sandwich which reduces taxes by routing profits through irish subsidarbs like they are in i think arizona, even when they do things in california they manage to ship a part somewhere else. so they are one of the worst, even worse than wal-mart in terms of what they might have contributed to to. i take it that $24,000,000,000. >> they are avoiding in taxes . >> one little tiny thing, they have had the opportunity over the courses of the years to do things in a much safer way when they manufacture in china and all over the place. >> no. there have been stories about the working conditions in china which is another reason i am glad these jobs are coming here. ruth ruth, you make a good point. i feel good about apple but we also have to change the tax laws so t
ruth is in sandy hook connecticut. >> good morning, bill. i am calling to say, please keep feeling guilty. >> why? >> because this adorable company does things to make sure that they don't pay taxes in the u.s. there is a thing called -- this was in "the new york times." it's double-dutch sandwich which reduces taxes by routing profits through irish subsidarbs like they are in i think arizona, even when they do things in california they manage to ship a part...
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. >> hurricane sandy did not have an impact on these numbers. clearly, you do have an improving situation here. >> the message we all want to send to members of congress is this is a solvable problem. >> we've only got 25 days until the fiscal cliff. >> according to "new york times," house speaker john ba boehner has asked democratic leaders to step aside so he and the president can negotiate a deal one on one, and no one is objecting. >>> the crisis in egypt remains volatile, with massive anti-government rallies planned today. >>> heartbreaking survival story for a woman stranded in the snow in the california sierra nevada mountains. >>> shoppers at a seattle macy's had to be hospitalized when an escalator they were riding malfunctioned. >> fire to the end zone. touchdown. >> broncos with their eighth straight win. >> all that -- >> three, two, one! >> my 50th birthday, she gives everybody a car and then she's all, thank you for coming to gayle's birthday! >> we're talking about oprah, right? >> no, of course not. >>> and all that matters. >> s
. >> hurricane sandy did not have an impact on these numbers. clearly, you do have an improving situation here. >> the message we all want to send to members of congress is this is a solvable problem. >> we've only got 25 days until the fiscal cliff. >> according to "new york times," house speaker john ba boehner has asked democratic leaders to step aside so he and the president can negotiate a deal one on one, and no one is objecting. >>> the crisis...
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sandy which hit 25% of the u.s. population, 25 states or something like would that cut job creation andket the unemployment rate a bit, kept it higher. turns out sandy did have an impact but not on the headline numbers. >> if you look deeper in the report you see over a million workers who normally work full-time were reduced to part-time hours during the reference week because of bad wetter. over 300,000 additional workers weren't able to work at all because of bad weather. >> but because the way the labor department counts full-time workers part time workers and whether people work at all, and when they work, it didn't show up in the headline numbers . one thing that did, 350,000 people left the workforce in november. that was one reason again why the unemployment rate dropped to 7.7%. ashley and tracy. ashley: sounded good to begin with then you take in those factors as peter outlined, maybe not so good. peter, thank you so much. tracy: there is lot more ugly in the report and we'll talk about it now actually bec
sandy which hit 25% of the u.s. population, 25 states or something like would that cut job creation andket the unemployment rate a bit, kept it higher. turns out sandy did have an impact but not on the headline numbers. >> if you look deeper in the report you see over a million workers who normally work full-time were reduced to part-time hours during the reference week because of bad wetter. over 300,000 additional workers weren't able to work at all because of bad weather. >> but...
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are all the sandy charities getting all the money this year? >> unfortunately when disasters happen there is flood of money because of a good heart of americans and it is appropriate that way, but when it happens right have to make choices where your charitable dollars to go there is tension and some charities that lose out that really need help. of course it is no easy choice for a donor. we recommend if at all possible that you don't forget those charities that are there for you all year-round. gerri: up 7.5% for the big charities. that is an amazing number. ken, thanks for coming on. it is charitynavigate tore.org, correct? >> correct. gerri: great website. president obama and his family getting into the christmas spirit at the 90th tree-lighting ceremony at the whites house. it was transplanted to the white house days before the hurricane. look at that. it is cool. it made it through unharmed. obama was saying santa claus is coming to town. this is the tree outside. guess what? there are 54 more of them inside the house. than last year. the
are all the sandy charities getting all the money this year? >> unfortunately when disasters happen there is flood of money because of a good heart of americans and it is appropriate that way, but when it happens right have to make choices where your charitable dollars to go there is tension and some charities that lose out that really need help. of course it is no easy choice for a donor. we recommend if at all possible that you don't forget those charities that are there for you all...
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>> well, keep in mind one of the reasons expectations were so low going into this one was hurricane sandy which everyone expected to be a temporary effect. that didn't material az somewhat mi mysteriously and the labor department indicated it had no impact on the number. you're right, this is not good enough. this is a treading water pace of jobs. it is more of the same. it's not particularly good in the quality of jobs being created so net net i think it's okay but certainly not what we'd like to see. >> maybe, tom, it is not that we are a nation of pessimists. it is that we're a nation of realists. maybe sort of from a strk turl long point of view we just have to get used to this. >> that's a great point. 150,000 is not good enough depending on your expectations for growth. if you're looking for 1.5% to 2% growth you are probably in the sweet spot. but if you are looking for something more, looking for 2.5% to 3% growth you need much more job growth to see that outcome. but we're not there. we don't think we'll get there. there's still too many headwind facing the small business segment
>> well, keep in mind one of the reasons expectations were so low going into this one was hurricane sandy which everyone expected to be a temporary effect. that didn't material az somewhat mi mysteriously and the labor department indicated it had no impact on the number. you're right, this is not good enough. this is a treading water pace of jobs. it is more of the same. it's not particularly good in the quality of jobs being created so net net i think it's okay but certainly not what...
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november jobs report comes out and it's expected to be messy between holiday hiring and the aftermalgt of sandy, some analysts say no matter what it shows no one should read much into it. with the holidays upon us how are businesses finding ways to keep jobs and their doors are open while others fail. tom forman went looking for answers in new york. >> amid the bustle of broadway, against the bad economy and the crushing competition at the strand the show goes on. it started more than 80 years ago. this independent bookstore has beaten the odds surviving the great depression, world war ii and fred bass, who was a baby when his dad started the strand says the store is enduring these tough times, too. >> we have good books and good prices. lately we've been selling a lot of new books at discount, but it's mostly used book or out of print books. >> the strand's eclectic approach allows it to appeal to a broad array of clients hunting the trivial and treasured on the shelves like this rare copy of uli. >> the strand success is about more than inventory. employees top to bottom must possess a deep k
november jobs report comes out and it's expected to be messy between holiday hiring and the aftermalgt of sandy, some analysts say no matter what it shows no one should read much into it. with the holidays upon us how are businesses finding ways to keep jobs and their doors are open while others fail. tom forman went looking for answers in new york. >> amid the bustle of broadway, against the bad economy and the crushing competition at the strand the show goes on. it started more than 80...
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, who both said it was going to be somewhere between 80,000 and 100,000 jobs -- say that go sandy was worth 80 -- negatively 80,000 to 100,000. you take 146,000 and this could have been a 200-plus number. >> it's interesting because it ties in with consumer data we've been seeing which actually, you know, is not great. it's not buoyant, but it's not bad. and you look at the fact what american households have been doing recently with debt and the degree of debt they've been repaying, sort of deleveraging. you add it together and actually it's not booming but it's not -- >> i want to add if we don't embrace washington and everybody else economic growth we're all in trouble. we can't begin to solve these problems. we have to get back to 4% or 5%. they have policies. medium sized businesses. >> the overall trend over the past several months have been fairly encouraging, right? if you don't own apple stock. >> yeah, the trends -- with the exception of that, i guess. if you owned it for a number of years you've done very well, joe. going through the numbers here a little bit more, looking a
, who both said it was going to be somewhere between 80,000 and 100,000 jobs -- say that go sandy was worth 80 -- negatively 80,000 to 100,000. you take 146,000 and this could have been a 200-plus number. >> it's interesting because it ties in with consumer data we've been seeing which actually, you know, is not great. it's not buoyant, but it's not bad. and you look at the fact what american households have been doing recently with debt and the degree of debt they've been repaying, sort...